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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.23 01:37:00 -
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looking forward to exploration caps.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
431
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Posted - 2012.11.23 01:46:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:PhatController wrote:Yes, but there is a reason more armor are made then shield..... one of them being Slaves. You misunderstand the reason why there are so many armor supers/titans compared with shield ones, but I'm all ok for shield slaves if on the other side armor gets crystal armor implants. You simply don't kill supers/titans as fast as drakes not because of implants but because they're expensive and you don't put them on the line that easy, the false idea about supers/titans uber armor tanking is only due to the fact the majority of those actually build are armor, thus when you put a single shield super/titan on that fleet it just doesn't stack correctly. Then you can not understand why when you join some alliance or coalition having already those armor ones will tell you to keep your shield titan at the pos for bridging, it's not a problem or armor/shield tanking, it's a matter of fleet doctrine consistency.
while this is true, there are other major reasons for flying armor. one of them is that shield gang links used to only increase your max shields, not your current shields. so if a shield cap joined fleet, it did not instantly gain buffer, unlike the armor cap. also, for a cap pilot, mid slots are usually much more valuable than low slots. you want those tracking computers and sebos in there, as they are more useful than their low slot counterparts. lastly, it just so happens that the shield dreads relied on missiles, which are, well, crap.
in addition to the slaves issue, these are very sound reasons to prefer an armor over a shield capital. doctrine is also part of the reason but not even the major part.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
431
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Posted - 2012.11.23 04:40:00 -
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i'll see your wall of text and raise you two fluffy kittens.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
435
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Posted - 2012.11.24 04:54:00 -
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i never bothered to read up on the new doomsdays. what do the interwebs think about it; is it a good idea to have dreads the 'official' counter to titans being oneshot by the latter? and if titans are supposed to be the counter to dreads, why not give dreads more tracking so they can actually get something done without heavy web and paint support?
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
437
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Posted - 2012.11.24 14:30:00 -
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ilammy wrote:Daniel Plain wrote:i never bothered to read up on the new doomsdays. what do the interwebs think about it; is it a good idea to have dreads the 'official' counter to titans being oneshot by the latter? and if titans are supposed to be the counter to dreads, why not give dreads more tracking so they can actually get something done without heavy web and paint support? Since when dreadnoughts cannot hit capital targets (phoenix aside), and webs & painters work on supercaps?
you misunderstood me. the reasoning is: if titans are supposed to counter dreads (which they do), then dreads are by definition not supposed to be useful against titans. on the other hand, they are just about as useless against subcaps unless you bring your own support with massive web and painting. this leaves me wondering if dreads' role needs to be defined better; pos bashing doesn't quite cut it as the only effective application of an entire ship class. then again, i never flew a dread so that's why i'm asking.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
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